A pair of Muslim tits in Saudi Arabia want women to breast-feed adult males
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JUST when you thought stupidity had reached its pinnacle in the mad world of Islam, along comes a report that two “powerful Saudi clerics” have advised women to give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes.

They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be delivered.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish “maternal relations” and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week’s worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they’re calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren’t related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

Al Obeikan said:

The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman. He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam’s rules about mixing.

Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.

Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman’s breast.

Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country’s Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.

The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male “guardian.”

Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a “breast milk sibling.”

Blogger Eman Al Nafjan wrote on her website:

The whole issue just shows how clueless men are. All this back and forth between sheiks and not one bothers to ask a woman if it’s logical, let alone possible to breastfeed a grown man five fulfilling breast milk meals. Moreover, the thought of a huge hairy face at a woman’s breast does not evoke motherly or even brotherly feelings. It could go from the grotesque to the erotic but definitely not maternal.

Al Nafjan said many in the country were appalled by the fatwa.

We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.

Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi

Unlawful mixing between the sexes is taken very seriously in Saudi Arabia. In March 2009, a 75-year-old Syrian widow, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, living in the city of Al-Chamil, was given 40 lashes and sentenced to six months in prison after the religious police learned that two men who were not related to her were in her house, delivering bread to her.

One of the two men found in her house, Fahd, told the police that Sawadi breast-fed him as a baby so he was considered a son and had a right to be there. But in a later court ruling, a judge said it could not be proved that Fahd was her “breast milk son.” Fahd was sentenced to four months in prison and 40 lashes, and the man who accompanied him got six months and 60 lashes.

The original adult breast-feeding fatwa was issued three years ago by an Egyptian scholar at Egypt’s al-Azhar University, considered Sunni Islam’s top university. Ezzat Attiya was expelled from the university after advocating breast-feeding of men as a way to circumnavigate segregation of the sexes in Egypt. A year ago, Attiya was reinstated to his post.
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I'm picturing a bunch of creepy old men sitting around planning ways to abuse women for sex while justifying it as part of the religion.
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(09-Jun-2010, 06:28 PM)Azad Wrote: JUST when you thought stupidity had reached its pinnacle in the mad world of Islam, along comes a report that two “powerful Saudi clerics” have advised women to give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes.

They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be delivered.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish “maternal relations” and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week’s worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they’re calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan

Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Bin Nasser Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren’t related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

Al Obeikan said:

The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman. He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam’s rules about mixing.

Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.

Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman’s breast.

Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country’s Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.

The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male “guardian.”

Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a “breast milk sibling.”

Blogger Eman Al Nafjan wrote on her website:

The whole issue just shows how clueless men are. All this back and forth between sheiks and not one bothers to ask a woman if it’s logical, let alone possible to breastfeed a grown man five fulfilling breast milk meals. Moreover, the thought of a huge hairy face at a woman’s breast does not evoke motherly or even brotherly feelings. It could go from the grotesque to the erotic but definitely not maternal.

Al Nafjan said many in the country were appalled by the fatwa.

We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.

Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi

Unlawful mixing between the sexes is taken very seriously in Saudi Arabia. In March 2009, a 75-year-old Syrian widow, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, living in the city of Al-Chamil, was given 40 lashes and sentenced to six months in prison after the religious police learned that two men who were not related to her were in her house, delivering bread to her.

One of the two men found in her house, Fahd, told the police that Sawadi breast-fed him as a baby so he was considered a son and had a right to be there. But in a later court ruling, a judge said it could not be proved that Fahd was her “breast milk son.” Fahd was sentenced to four months in prison and 40 lashes, and the man who accompanied him got six months and 60 lashes.

The original adult breast-feeding fatwa was issued three years ago by an Egyptian scholar at Egypt’s al-Azhar University, considered Sunni Islam’s top university. Ezzat Attiya was expelled from the university after advocating breast-feeding of men as a way to circumnavigate segregation of the sexes in Egypt. A year ago, Attiya was reinstated to his post.

How in the world does drinking a womans milk make you related to her??!?!?! These people are reading the wrong science text book!!
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That's problem when religious people start thinking in their view..
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[We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.
perhaps this is the right stand.
The same logic is working in our country with cow's milk.
Cow is described as mother!
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(21-Sep-2010, 09:03 PM)panditaradhya Wrote: [We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.
perhaps this is the right stand.
The same logic is working in our country with cow's milk.
Cow is described as mother!

Hey n00bie, relax Punk and don't bother telling people how to spend their time Wink. There are plenty of other threads you can choose to discuss your views in, or start any new ones if you so desire.

Since you brought up cows, perhaps you need to go here: http://nirmukta.net/Thread-Why-the-cow-w...hypothesis
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@palaeo
[How in the world does drinking a womans milk make you related to her??!?!?! These people are reading the wrong science text book!!]
Being a moderator only to post this simple line of comment you have tagged the whole post of Azad.Please ask someone apt to simplify the method of replying excluding the tag.

What a pitiful condition of the Islamic world !The ludicrous fatoas are declared only against modernism and scientific attitude.The blind followers of Quran have nothing to do with murderers,thieves,hijackers,terrorists and even rapists if the victims are not the followers of Islam.
When will the educated muslims arise together overcoming the fear of the extremists?The whole world is eagerly waiting for that.
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(21-Sep-2010, 09:03 PM)panditaradhya Wrote: [We have many important issues that need discussing. It’s ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding.
perhaps this is the right stand.
The same logic is working in our country with cow's milk.
Cow is described as mother!

How I miss Mr. Menon of CHRO (human rights orgn.). When the saffron guys would write stuff like "gau hamari mata hain', he used to answer, "and who is your father - Hefty, the bull?".

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(09-Jun-2010, 11:04 PM)Ajita Kamal Wrote: I'm picturing a bunch of creepy old men sitting around planning ways to abuse women for sex while justifying it as part of the religion.

Actually, these old men have a "logical pathway" to get to this nonsense! This link below has the Quranic story behind this adult breast feeding nonsense. Disgusting as it is, at my cynical worst, I find the way Muslims tie themselves in knots to follow the Quran rather laughable.

NOTE: Picture in the article below is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).

http://www.islam-watch.org/MuminSalih/Br...-Islam.htm
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(22-Sep-2010, 12:15 PM)donatello Wrote: Actually, these old men have a "logical pathway" to get to this nonsense! This link below has the Quranic story behind this adult breast feeding nonsense. Disgusting as it is, at my cynical worst, I find the way Muslims tie themselves in knots to follow the Quran rather laughable.

NOTE: Picture in the article below is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).

http://www.islam-watch.org/MuminSalih/Br...-Islam.htm


Most Arabs are cherishing the memories of glorious golden days thousand years ago. As a person living in the middle east i see - Education is absolute nonsense. I was on a chat with my Omani colleague on what his idea was on human evolution. He had no clue, he had never heard of it and neither did his kids ever learn about it. They learn some basic maths (to count the camels), geography (to identify my field from yours) and science. I really worry for this population, what kind of people are they going to spawn in the next generation.

Recently there have been a rise of UK & Indian universities and colleges in the capital cities but they still lack a good foundation in terms to education. They also lack a vision on what to become and to develop a philosophy of life. In the next 40 -50 yrs the Arab world stands no chance in comparison to other democracies. Unless Islam dominates.

Following Islam is not a choice, I'm short of words to explain the dominance of religious beliefs in the lives of the locals here. It is nothing like what i have seen in India. You live by it every minute, every day, if you do not believe then you present yourself as you believe. If not they will be out of their family, out of the society; without education they are not at the liberty to choose livelihood elsewhere. So most of them just follow the sheep. I think education is the stone which is going to solve the issue if at all they realize this as an issue.

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